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		<title>By: dewd</title>
		<link>http://www.irc-junkie.org/2008-03-17/irc-network-admin-more-then-you-bargained-for/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>dewd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;64&quot;]I&#039;m also a bit confused as to what he&#039;s been arrested / pending charges for? If it&#039;s a network he&#039;s running, surely he can&#039;t be arrested for bots connecting to his network - he&#039;s not involved with them.

Any clarification appreciated :P[/quote]

Hi dan!
I&#039;m a bit confused me too...
Its looks like they want more proof so that\&#039;s why they&#039;re investigating my computers.
Well, the cops doesnt have the good guy for these bots, its required some times to verify everythings!
I hope I\&#039;ll get back my computers who cost 700$can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dan wrote at October 29, 2008 1:07 pm</p>
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I&#8217;m also a bit confused as to what he&#8217;s been arrested / pending charges for? If it&#8217;s a network he&#8217;s running, surely he can&#8217;t be arrested for bots connecting to his network &#8211; he&#8217;s not involved with them.</p>
<p>Any clarification appreciated <img src='http://www.irc-junkie.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>Hi dan!<br />
I&#8217;m a bit confused me too&#8230;<br />
Its looks like they want more proof so that\&#8217;s why they&#8217;re investigating my computers.<br />
Well, the cops doesnt have the good guy for these bots, its required some times to verify everythings!<br />
I hope I\&#8217;ll get back my computers who cost 700$can.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also a bit confused as to what he&#039;s been arrested / pending charges for? If it&#039;s a network he&#039;s running, surely he can&#039;t be arrested for bots connecting to his network - he&#039;s not involved with them.

Any clarification appreciated :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also a bit confused as to what he&#8217;s been arrested / pending charges for? If it&#8217;s a network he&#8217;s running, surely he can&#8217;t be arrested for bots connecting to his network &#8211; he&#8217;s not involved with them.</p>
<p>Any clarification appreciated <img src='http://www.irc-junkie.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Asmo</title>
		<link>http://www.irc-junkie.org/2008-03-17/irc-network-admin-more-then-you-bargained-for/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Asmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;62&quot;]Lemme get this straight: The dude&#039;s been arrested for the actions of the 2 original pirates who tried to setup bots on his network, or is it because he downloaded movies via P2P?

If he&#039;s been charged with the former, my full support to him - it&#039;s not illegal to run an IRC network, except in some countries (I think Japan is among one of those) - and why should he be punished for the actions of a couple of unwanted users?

If it\&#039;s the latter scenario (charged for piracy via P2P), then my sympathy will have waned - a lot.
I&#039;m sorry, but I have little sympathy for pirates. Especially given what I do as a job, lifestyle and hobby - develop.[/quote]

There are countries where downloading is legal, like in my country the Netherlands. Don&#039;t think we get it for free though. We do pay in another way, with extra charges asked over empty media. This dates back to the musictape days where a charge was introduced that compensated artists for copies made from vinyl. A charge is asked over all empty media such as videotapes, CDR&#039;s DVDR&#039;s etc and it&#039;s quite substantial as well.

Hence it can&#039;t be called &#039;piracy&#039; either. It is however illegal to upload, which of course is a weird construction when it comes to p2p, but then again that law was not made with p2p in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PingBad wrote at October 29, 2008 1:05 pm</p>
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Lemme get this straight: The dude&#8217;s been arrested for the actions of the 2 original pirates who tried to setup bots on his network, or is it because he downloaded movies via P2P?</p>
<p>If he&#8217;s been charged with the former, my full support to him &#8211; it&#8217;s not illegal to run an IRC network, except in some countries (I think Japan is among one of those) &#8211; and why should he be punished for the actions of a couple of unwanted users?</p>
<p>If it\&#8217;s the latter scenario (charged for piracy via P2P), then my sympathy will have waned &#8211; a lot.<br />
I&#8217;m sorry, but I have little sympathy for pirates. Especially given what I do as a job, lifestyle and hobby &#8211; develop.</p>
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<p>There are countries where downloading is legal, like in my country the Netherlands. Don&#8217;t think we get it for free though. We do pay in another way, with extra charges asked over empty media. This dates back to the musictape days where a charge was introduced that compensated artists for copies made from vinyl. A charge is asked over all empty media such as videotapes, CDR&#8217;s DVDR&#8217;s etc and it&#8217;s quite substantial as well.</p>
<p>Hence it can&#8217;t be called &#8216;piracy&#8217; either. It is however illegal to upload, which of course is a weird construction when it comes to p2p, but then again that law was not made with p2p in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: PingBad</title>
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		<dc:creator>PingBad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lemme get this straight: The dude&#039;s been arrested for the actions of the 2 original pirates who tried to setup bots on his network, or is it because he downloaded movies via P2P?

If he&#039;s been charged with the former, my full support to him - it&#039;s not illegal to run an IRC network, except in some countries (I think Japan is among one of those) - and why should he be punished for the actions of a couple of unwanted users?

If it\&#039;s the latter scenario (charged for piracy via P2P), then my sympathy will have waned - a lot.
I&#039;m sorry, but I have little sympathy for pirates. Especially given what I do as a job, lifestyle and hobby - develop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lemme get this straight: The dude&#8217;s been arrested for the actions of the 2 original pirates who tried to setup bots on his network, or is it because he downloaded movies via P2P?</p>
<p>If he&#8217;s been charged with the former, my full support to him &#8211; it&#8217;s not illegal to run an IRC network, except in some countries (I think Japan is among one of those) &#8211; and why should he be punished for the actions of a couple of unwanted users?</p>
<p>If it\&#8217;s the latter scenario (charged for piracy via P2P), then my sympathy will have waned &#8211; a lot.<br />
I&#8217;m sorry, but I have little sympathy for pirates. Especially given what I do as a job, lifestyle and hobby &#8211; develop.</p>
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		<title>By: SolyTairE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SolyTairE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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