[Asmo]

I know, I know! It was about time for a new article. And even though there finally is a new article, it is not even from my own hands... I hang my head in shame.

In the article named 'ISP's lack of responsibility for DoS attacks', article submitter xplora shares his opinion about ISP's ignoring DoS attacks.

This could become a rather interesting discussion ...
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This probably runs off-topic, but does anyone else feel the whole download-centric mentality should bear some of the blame.

If the majority of ISPs turned around and started charging or throttling clients based on uploads instead of downloads we would see:

- Hopefully less (D)DoS attacks, as people become more upload concious (probably by the hard way though unfortunately). People who attack from their own connections will also be footing the bill instead of their targets.

- Less unwitting warez hosts (as above)

- Less spam and mass mailing viruses (as above)

- Less financial damage caused by the attacks themselves, reduced damage to resources as attackers are throttled for uploading

- People can actually *choose* what to use their quota on instead of having it taken away by some packetting moron

- People can not dispute their usage as they were *uploading* this traffic to the internet (of course the virus/trojan on computer issue arises here)

Sure, it's far from perfect, and I've probably overlooked something, but how can it be worse than the situation today? As the thread points out the victim pays idea kinda sucks, why not hit the people that cause the problem instead? The Internet has been running 'reverse-charge' for too long IMO.

(wasn't sure whether I should reply here or to the actual article thread itself)

[Asmo]

Hey Skip,

I think the best place would indeed be the article itself ;) As this article will fade away over time...

Maybe you would like to report the article over there, and be sure future readers will get your comment as well =)
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[romiir]

Skip, as a webmaster, if my isp throttled uploading, i would drop them. Most ISP's already no longer offer synchronous data rates, all they offer is asynchronous crap where they advertize their powerful 3 MB down, but you get like 128k up , as a webmaster that just sucks, people need uploading power just as much as download... Apparently you dont host many game servers or use the internet much...

Heres a idea : ISPs could quit being greedy about their contracts with one another and actually work together to make the internet a better place. And simple software on ISP servers can null route nearly 100% of dos attacks... What do you think the shell companys with dos protect for irc servers do... its not hard... some of those servers get enough dos to take out a small isp but they are fine cause they have good connections and good software.

And last but not least... who in their right mind would get a isp who charges for useage? lmfao, try a isp without a quota, you pay cash, they give you line, you use line full throttle 24/7, they dont care, cause you pay them...

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