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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:31 am?? ?Post subject: One User Causes Networkwide ISP Ban on GameSurge Reply with quote

"At approximately 5pm PST today all BellSouth hosts were blocked due to inaction by their abuse department. We are currently working with BellSouth support to resolve this issue. Once BellSouth addresses our abuse complaints with them, we will remove the block on BellSouth hosts", GameSurge admin Cradly announced on the networks' website.

Major IRC networks are occasionally forced to GLine an entire ISP due to inactivity after abuse reports. This time however, it was a single user. "... it was an actual user who would persistently evade bans and G-lines" another GameSurge admin, Entrope, explained to IRC-Junkie.

Bellsouth is a dynamic ISP, making it hard to GLine a single user, as (s)he can simply reset his connection to gain a new IP.

After the network tried to contact Bellsouth to solve the problem and found no reply, they decided that a ban for the entire ISP was unavoidable. Entrope explains: "The ISP-wide G-line included a contact number for Bellsouth customers to call and let Bellsouth know that the lack of response was causing problems for them. Once that happened, Bellsouth responded in an admirably quick time, and they have assured us that they will make appropriate efforts to resolve the problem."

Within three hours after the GLine was put in place, Bellsouth replied and the GLine was removed. "Ideally, ISPs would respond to abuse reports without their users having to call in", Entrope said.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:33 pm?? ?Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems lots of networks have issues with bellsouth.

I thought i remembered ETG having issues and blocked a hunk of south Florida because of some annoying user.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:57 am?? ?Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems that irc networks of late seem to be resorting to banning entire ISP netblocks because of inactivity of the abuse dept's for those ISPs...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:37 pm?? ?Post subject: Reply with quote

i just wonder what the network in question expects from their behaviour...

will the world stop turning?

no

will anyone besides the users on said network care?

no

will this ban do anything to the ISP or change their mind to do $ACTION?

no

*if* they would be some sort of data-carrier and they'd start dropping said ISPs traffic - that would yield quick results, but not banning $IP_RANGE from $RANDOM_NET...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:29 pm?? ?Post subject: Reply with quote

In fact, if you ban the ISP, it WILL help them to act, like the article explains as well.

We had the same situation on Undernet (maybe even twice). ISP wouldnt do a thing, untill it was banned. The massive ammount of users that called them asking why they couldnt join Undernet finally made them acting upon the abuse report, as they should have right away...

Its a very crude thing to do, as it affects many mnay good users, but if the actions of a single man affect the network in such ways, theres ultimately only one thing left a network can resort too...
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