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TargeT
Joined: 11 Dec 2005
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Location: Macedonia
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:32 pm?? ?Post subject: Stupid Operators on #usernames
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MUST READ THIS:
Session Start: Mon Dec 12 12:11:21 2005
Session Ident: #usernames
[12:11] * Now talking in #usernames
[12:11] * Topic is 'Welcome, Usernames Reg: OPEN. ask everything you need in one line when it's your turn and wait for a reply, /part after being helped.'
[12:11] * Set by zmolensky on Sun Dec 11 14:25:15
[12:11] [UserService VERSION]
[12:11] -UserService- Welcome to #usernames, you are number 1 in line, you will be assisted as soon as we get into you. Please note: this is not an idle channel, you cannot idle in here, park your bncs/bots. Once you get helped, please /part #usernames, and have a nice day.
[12:12] * UserService sets mode: +v TargeTd
[12:12] TargeTd : hello, ask your problem/question all in one line and wait for a reply, you are being assisted by mWx
[12:13] TargeTd hey, can we help you ?
[12:13] yes, you must help me
[12:13] TargeTd how ? Tell us your problems/questions.
[12:14] I am the meganer of #meta which was being in a registering process
[12:14] and some of the admins rejected it
[12:15] with the reason that i have been using more usernames to register it
[12:15] Yeah, i saw that's the reason of reject.
[12:15] * daksta has joined #usernames
[12:15] I'll be very short
[12:15] give a log where I i have been logged on other username
[12:16] TargeTd are you sure you haven't logged many usernames from the same local host/ip or are you sure you haven't logged your username from a place where others did ?
[12:16] Hell NO
[12:16] TargeTd have u read the channel registration aup
[12:16] yes
[12:16] i have read it many times
[12:17] tell me the username which i have logged on
[12:17] ok, we both understand that having X or getting the channel accepted is a priviledge do we
[12:18] absolutly
[12:18] * FONE has joined #usernames
[12:18] i totally agree with that
[12:18] I am disapointed of you because you give some stupid reason which is not true
[12:19] ok, so it means also that you are not in any position to ask for logs of multiple names used in the application
[12:19] just because of the fact that the admin probably didn't liked that name
[12:19] wrong
[12:19] DO U want me go give you all the logs that i have?
[12:20] there are 2 supporters used having exactly the same dd.mm.yyyy verification question/answer and i doubt it was a coincidence
[12:20] or you will give a log where I have logged
[12:20] STOP using CAPS will you?
[12:20] ok
[12:20] [12:22] there are 2 supporters used having exactly the same dd.mm.yyyy verification question/answer and i doubt it was a coincidence <== have u seen this
[12:20] but the comment is: Applicant using multiple usernames to register.
[12:20] daksta wait for ur turn
[12:21] as far as I know the applicant is me
[12:21] how could you use multiple usernames to register? while you only use one username to "apply" and "register" is meant by the "application=supporters"
[12:22] tell me the user that have same dd.mm.yyy which you doubt about
[12:22] i'll bring it to you
[12:22] and see that they are totaly different persons
[12:26] i am still waithing to give me the users of the supporters
[12:27] so 1° you are in #usernames that deals with username related problems/issues, #cservice deals with channels, and 2°, we never are to give any logs or any proofs to justify the decisions taken, you have to re-apply making sure you use 10 different supporters/persons
[12:28] i have told you already that i am 100% sure that the supp are 10 different persons
[12:28] Devilkings
[12:29] and palce, have the same informations
[12:29] Devilking is from Macedonia and palce is from USA
[12:38] TargeTd cservice won't go looking after who is using an username, the person is from...etc, we work based on the informations provided in our page, and informations for those usernames were matching
[12:39] but that doesnt proves that the usenames is the same person
[12:40] i dont know the curcumstances but maybe devilking made the usename for palce
[12:40] TargeTd you are not here to show us our job
[12:40] from the logs i see modifications done on the usernames from same ip both coming from macedonia
[12:40] that is absolutly wrong
2:41] i can prove that palce is from Usa and Devilking is from Macedonia
[12:41] TargeTd why don't you find 1 other supporter and reapply?
[12:42] cos i am borred of some fake excusions
[12:42] palce was living in macedonia
[12:42] but now is in Usa
[12:42] u just said that it is IMPOSSIBLE since palce is from USA and has nothing to do with macedonia?
[12:42] yes now
[12:45] first you say: applicant (which is me) and then you say that supporters are using
[12:46] TargeTd reread the reject reason very carefully and see where it says APPLICANT has multiple usernames instead of "USED" multiple usernames
[12:46] by CService Admin
[12:46] Applicant using multiple usernames
[12:47] Applicant that blames Me
[12:47] not the supporters
[12:48] because you are the ONLY responsible of your chan (if it ever gets reged), and the supporter list, now to have X there if u ever want it, stop wasting ur time and ours, reapply for ur chan and have a nice day
[12:48] I have seen an comment which says One of supporters using multi....
[12:50] there may be hundreds of other usernames that have the same verification question
[12:50] oh so you mean: i want my chan to be rejected with reason: One of supporters using multi.... and not: Applicant using multiple usernames to register
[12:50] Althoug the both decisions are wrong
[12:51] although*
[12:51] TargeTd......... for the LAST time, you are not here to show us our job, CANNOT be 2 supporters in the same application that have fathers' birthday in the same
[12:51] i am here to correct your work
[12:51] even if that could happen, there is ABSOLUTLY no way to contact each user using our service to confirm they are different, so please, reapply for ur chan if u want X there and have a nice day
[12:51] maybe they are brothers?
[12:51] 10 secs to read my last lines before leaving
[12:52] hell wrong
[12:53] the birthday of my father and the birthday of mu brother has the same date (no way :S I must be wrong)
[12:53] * You were kicked by X ((Leoo) DIFFERENT PERSONS CANNOT BE "HELL DIFFERENT FROM USA and MACEDONIA" BUT IN SAME TIME BROTHERS.)
CONCLUSION:
1. If I have a Brother, he couldn't be IN OTHER COUNTRY. (DIFFERENT PERSONS CANNOT BE "HELL DIFFERENT FROM USA and MACEDONIA" BUT IN SAME TIME BROTHERS)
2. The birthday of your father and the birthday of your brother's father is DIFFERENT.
3. Undernet sucks.
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paddy
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:07 am?? ?Post subject:
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lol 
Even rules made up for protection find their victims...
Sorry for the bad luck, TargeT
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mwx
Joined: 22 Mar 2006
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:50 am?? ?Post subject: Re: Stupid Operators on #usernames
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MUST READ THIS:
Session Start: Mon Dec 12 12:11:21 2005
Session Ident: #usernames
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[12:16] TargeTd are you sure you haven't logged many usernames from the same local host/ip or are you sure you haven't logged your username from a place where others did ?
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Hello, first of all, sorry for bothering you, but without my knowledge I heard I'm stupid only because you think..and I've seen the article posted and I still dont understand why do you think I'm stupid..
The text in bold was :
[12:16] TargeTd are you sure you haven't logged many usernames from the same local host/ip or are you sure you haven't logged your username from a place where others did ?
So the first phrase is: Are you sure you haven't logged many usernames from the same local host/ip ? What I meant by this in fact I was asking you if you have multiple usernames and you logged them from the same host, which if it was true should give you the reason of "reject" for your channel.
The second phrase was: are you sure you haven't logged your username from a place where others did ?
What I meant by this was to asking you if you used to login with your username from a internet caffe for example or from a common internet place which is used by others too. Because in those places there are many people which login usernames and this might causes the suspicion.
I cannot tell you more about the reason of that reject cuz I dont have some Admin's powers, maybe the reason of the reject was true, or maybe not, but you definitelly should put yourself in the same situation, it's very hard to believe that 2 persons had the same dd.mm.yyyy (at the same question) and meantime they were involved in a to a registration process of a channel in the same time, one as an applicant and the other one as a supporter.The coincidence is too big, anyway It's not me which made the rules so don't judge me instead others.
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Asmo
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:44 am?? ?Post subject:
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Gosh mwx this topic was already dead for months! You will always get a few unhappy campers while doing volunteering work on networks as big as Undernet. Its not something you can prevent, just orient yourself on the 99% that ARE happy you helped them :)
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Kahr
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:12 pm?? ?Post subject:
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Yeah, like Asmo. No one likes Asmo. 
It's always like this though. Sometimes the person trying to help might not be as helpful as he/she wish, but other times, the person he/she is trying to help, is just unreasonable.
We're all just humans, after all.
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MexDownunda
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:06 pm?? ?Post subject:
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Let me see if I understand this. If I have a twin, and my twin and I share the same dsl connection, and we both chat in the same channel, we can not both support the registration of that channel because we share the same birthdate and chat from the same location?
I am gobbsmacked.
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mwx
Joined: 22 Mar 2006
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:04 am?? ?Post subject:
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Well, techincally it's possible to enter in CIA's building, because there is a door or more many, practically I think you can't unless you have their permission.. So the point is we are talking about exceptions, it is possible to have a twin brother but there are maybe 00.01% chances to that happen, and even if it's true you can avoid that problem by chosing a different secret question/answer. In this way you will not be refused to get both involved in to a registration process except the case when you using the same ip. You cannot use the same ip to support the application in the same time. Even if Cservice's rules aren't a pleasure for most of you, then you can try to respect them to avoid their suspends.
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